Jenna Cody :
Is Taiwan a real China?
No, and with the exception of a few intervening decades - here’s the part that’ll surprise you - it never has been.
This’ll blow your mind too: that it never has been doesn’t matter.
So let’s start with what doesn’t actually matter.
Until the 1600s, Taiwan was indigenous. Indigenous Taiwanese are not Chinese, they’re Austronesian. Then it was a Dutch colony (note: I do not say “it was Dutch”, I say it was a Dutch colony). Then it was taken over by Ming loyalists at the end of the Ming dynasty (the Ming loyalists were breakaways, not a part of the new Qing court. Any overlap in Ming rule and Ming loyalist conquest of Taiwan was so brief as to be inconsequential).
Only then, in the late 1600s, was it taken over by the Chinese (Qing). But here’s the thing, it was more like a colony of the Qing, treated as - to use Emma Teng’s wording in Taiwan’s Imagined Geography - a barrier or barricade keeping the ‘real’ Qing China safe. In fact, the Qing didn’t even want Taiwan at first, the emperor called it “a ball of mud beyond the pale of civilization”. Prior to that, and to a great extent at that time, there was no concept on the part of China that Taiwan was Chinese, even though Chinese immigrants began moving to Taiwan under Dutch colonial rule (mostly encouraged by the Dutch, to work as laborers). When the Spanish landed in the north of Taiwan, it was the Dutch, not the Chinese, who kicked them out.
Under Qing colonial rule - and yes, I am choosing my words carefully - China only controlled the Western half of Taiwan. They didn’t even have maps for the eastern half. That’s how uninterested in it they were. I can’t say that the Qing controlled “Taiwan”, they only had power over part of it.
Note that the Qing were Manchu, which at the time of their conquest had not been a part of China: China itself essentially became a Manchu imperial holding, and Taiwan did as well, once they were convinced it was not a “ball of mud” but actually worth taking. Taiwan was not treated the same way as the rest of “Qing China”, and was not administered as a province until (I believe) 1887. So that’s around 200 years of Taiwan being a colony of the Qing.
What happened in the late 19th century to change China’s mind? Japan. A Japanese ship was shipwrecked in eastern Taiwan in the 1870s, and the crew was killed by hostile indigenous people in what is known as the Mudan Incident. A Japanese emissary mission went to China to inquire about what could be done, only to be told that China had no control there and if they went to eastern Taiwan, they did so at their own peril. China had not intended to imply that Taiwan wasn’t theirs, but they did. Japan - and other foreign powers, as France also attempted an invasion - were showing an interest in Taiwan, so China decided to cement its claim, started mapping the entire island, and made it a province.
So, I suppose for a decade or so Taiwan was a part of China. A China that no longer exists.
It remained a province until 1895, when it was ceded to Japan after the (first) Sino-Japanese War. Before that could happen, Taiwan declared itself a Republic, although it was essentially a Qing puppet state (though the history here is interesting - correspondence at the time indicates that the leaders of this ‘Republic of Taiwan’ considered themselves Chinese, and the tiger flag hints at this as well. However, the constitution was a very republican document, not something you’d expect to see in Qing-era China.) That lasted for less than a year, when the Japanese took it by force.
This is important for two reasons - the first is that some interpretations of IR theory state that when a colonial holding is released, it should revert to the state it was in before it was taken as a colony. In this case, that would actually be The Republic of Taiwan, not Qing-era China. Secondly, it puts to rest all notions that there was no Taiwan autonomy movement prior to 1947.
In any case, it would be impossible to revert to its previous state, as the government that controlled it - the Qing empire - no longer exists. The current government of China - the PRC - has never controlled it.
After the Japanese colonial era, there is a whole web of treaties and agreements that do not satisfactorily settle the status of Taiwan. None of them actually do so - those which explicitly state that Taiwan is to be given to the Republic of China (such as the Cairo declaration) are non-binding. Those that are binding do not settle the status of Taiwan (neither the treaty of San Francisco nor the Treaty of Taipei definitively say that Taiwan is a part of China, or even which China it is - the Treaty of Taipei sets out what nationality the Taiwanese are to be considered, but that doesn’t determine territorial claims). Treaty-wise, the status of Taiwan is “undetermined”.
Under more modern interpretations, what a state needs to be a state is…lessee…a contiguous territory, a government, a military, a currency…maybe I’m forgetting something, but Taiwan has all of it. For all intents and purposes it is independent already.
In fact, in the time when all of these agreements were made, the Allied powers weren’t as sure as you might have learned about what to do with Taiwan. They weren’t a big fan of Chiang Kai-shek, didn’t want it to go Communist, and discussed an Allied trusteeship (which would have led to independence) or backing local autonomy movements (which did exist). That it became what it did - “the ROC” but not China - was an accident (as Hsiao-ting Lin lays out in Accidental State).
In fact, the KMT knew this, and at the time the foreign minister (George Yeh) stated something to the effect that they were aware they were ‘squatters’ in Taiwan.
Since then, it’s true that the ROC claims to be the rightful government of Taiwan, however, that hardly matters when considering the future of Taiwan simply because they have no choice. To divest themselves of all such claims (and, presumably, change their name) would be considered by the PRC to be a declaration of formal independence. So that they have not done so is not a sign that they wish to retain the claim, merely that they wish to avoid a war.
It’s also true that most Taiwanese are ethnically “Han” (alongside indigenous and Hakka, although Hakka are, according to many, technically Han…but I don’t think that’s relevant here). But biology is not destiny: what ethnicity someone is shouldn’t determine what government they must be ruled by.
Through all of this, the Taiwanese have evolved their own culture, identity and sense of history. They are diverse in a way unique to Taiwan, having been a part of Austronesian and later Hoklo trade routes through Southeast Asia for millenia. Now, one in five (I’ve heard one in four, actually) Taiwanese children has a foreign parent. The Taiwanese language (which is not Mandarin - that’s a KMT transplant language forced on Taiwanese) is gaining popularity as people discover their history. Visiting Taiwan and China, it is clear where the cultural differences are, not least in terms of civic engagement. This morning, a group of legislators were removed after a weekend-long pro-labor hunger strike in front of the presidential palace. They were not arrested and will not be. Right now, a group of pro-labor protesters is lying down on the tracks at Taipei Main Station to protest the new labor law amendments.
This would never be allowed in China, but Taiwanese take it as a fiercely-guarded basic right.
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Now, as I said, none of this matters.
What matters is self-determination. If you believe in democracy, you believe that every state (and Taiwan does fit the definition of a state) that wants to be democratic - that already is democratic and wishes to remain that way - has the right to self-determination. In fact, every nation does. You cannot be pro-democracy and also believe that it is acceptable to deprive people of this right, especially if they already have it.
Taiwan is already a democracy. That means it has the right to determine its own future. Period.
Even under the ROC, Taiwan was not allowed to determine its future. The KMT just arrived from China and claimed it. The Taiwanese were never asked if they consented. What do we call it when a foreign government arrives in land they had not previously governed and declares itself the legitimate governing power of that land without the consent of the local people? We call that colonialism.
Under this definition, the ROC can also be said to be a colonial power in Taiwan. They forced Mandarin - previously not a language native to Taiwan - onto the people, taught Chinese history, geography and culture, and insisted that the Taiwanese learn they were Chinese - not Taiwanese (and certainly not Japanese). This was forced on them. It was not chosen. Some, for awhile, swallowed it. Many didn’t. The independence movement only grew, and truly blossomed after democratization - something the Taiwanese fought for and won, not something handed to them by the KMT.
So what matters is what the Taiwanese want, not what the ROC is forced to claim. I cannot stress this enough - if you do not believe Taiwan has the right to this, you do not believe in democracy.
And poll after poll shows it: Taiwanese identify more as Taiwanese than Chinese (those who identify as both primarily identify as Taiwanese, just as I identify as American and Armenian, but primarily as American. Armenian is merely my ethnicity). They overwhelmingly support not unifying with China. The vast majority who support the status quo support one that leads to eventual de jure independence, not unification. The status quo is not - and cannot be - an endgame (if only because China has declared so, but also because it is untenable). Less than 10% want unification. Only a small number (a very small minority) would countenance unification in the future…even if China were to democratize.
The issue isn’t the incompatibility of the systems - it’s that the Taiwanese fundamentally do not see themselves as Chinese.
A change in China’s system won’t change that. It’s not an ethnic nationalism - there is no ethnic argument for Taiwan (or any nation - didn’t we learn in the 20th century what ethnicity-based nation-building leads to? Nothing good). It’s not a jingoistic or xenophobic nationalism - Taiwanese know that to be dangerous. It’s a nationalism based on shared identity, culture, history and civics. The healthiest kind of nationalism there is. Taiwan exists because the Taiwanese identify with it. Period.
There are debates about how long the status quo should go on, and what we should risk to insist on formal recognition. However, the question of whether or not to be Taiwan, not China…
…well, that’s already settled.
The Taiwanese have spoken and they are not Chinese.
Whatever y’all think about that doesn’t matter. That’s what they want, and if you believe in self-determination you will respect it.
If you don’t, good luck with your authoritarian nonsense, but Taiwan wants nothing to do with it.
we the north flag 在 倫敦男子日常 london.nanzhi Facebook 的最佳解答
#哈利波特 #拜託可以讓我好好發倫敦生活文嗎
上班途中,A 先生傳來他在外國論壇上看到的消息:哈利波特網站 Wizarding World 的會員註冊頁面上,將「台灣列為中國一部分。」(https://www.wizardingworld.com)
我看到後忍不住想使出 「阿哇呾喀呾啦 Avada Kedavra」(這裡有波特迷嗎)
但我們只是單純平庸的麻瓜們,只能用最笨拙的方式了, A 先生超級感人地在我開會途中已經寄出一篇文情並茂的信。他要我告訴大家,歡迎取用以下範本,修改寄件人,正港台灣麻瓜們一起組成我們的鳳凰軍!
Email: press@wizardingworld.com
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Dear Wizarding World,
While registering on your website, I have unfortunately found that you have listed the country of Taiwan instead as ‘Taiwan, China’. This is incorrect. Despite misinformation from the unelected and authoritarian government in Beijing, neither international law, nor the United Kingdom, recognises China’s claim on Taiwan. It is politically unwise and disrespectful to have put Taiwan (Republic of China), widely known as an individual and democratic country, under the territory of China (People’s Republic of China).
The incorrect classification of Taiwanese nationality can be a serious disservice to all Taiwanese who are fans of the Harry Potter brand. Showing Taiwan as part of China also denies the human rights and the right to self-determination for the 23 million people of Taiwan, who have established a democracy that is unique in Asia. These rights are enshrined in the United Nations Charter, in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights.
I believe that as a company, you have your customers interests at heart, however this mis-classification will no doubt severely damage the Harry Potter brand. While Taiwanese hold their own passport, country name (Republic of China) and national flag, your website cannot continue to classify Taiwan as a part of the People’s Republic of China. This is akin to mis-classifying North and South Korea, and the Democratic Republic and Republic of Congo, which would quickly bring your company into the spotlight of international media.
Your error has already been brought to the attention of many media channels, Taiwanese individuals and online influencers. Unfortunately while your company continues to classify Taiwan as a part of China, I, along with many other individuals will boycott Harry Potter, Fantastic Beasts and related brands. We will also reach out to social media influencers and other media channels to encourage boycotting of your brand if ’Taiwan, China’ is left on your website.
For clarification, Taiwan should be listed as ‘Taiwan’ or alternatively ‘Taiwan (ROC)’, and definitely not ‘Taiwan, Province of China’ or ‘Taiwan, China’. Taiwan is NOT a special administrative region of China such as is the case for Hong Kong and Macau.
I therefore kindly request that you amend this mis-classification of the Taiwan country, especially as it is pointless for the reputation of your company to be affected by a political issue.
Sincerely,
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we the north flag 在 旅行熱炒店Podcast Facebook 的最讚貼文
這趟旅行來到巴黎,我嘗試在觀光客通常不會去的角落裡,尋找這個城市與原法國殖民地國家之間的文化連結。
This is my third time in Paris, and I tried to make it different by focusing on the city's connection to former French colony cultures.
第一個下午來到市中心北方約10公里處的St Denis。這裡是巴黎傳統上的相對貧困區,雖然擁有埋葬了幾乎所有法國國王的教堂,卻因為給人治安不好的印象,幾乎不會有觀光客到訪。在這裡,我遇見了許多非洲裔的移民及其後代,街上可以見到屬於非裔移民的文化象徵——理髮店,而門口掛著的竟然是加勒比海國家海地的國旗;市政府前遇到了剛完婚的新人竟然就在廣場前和親友直接奏起樂跳起舞來,而那音樂也不是電影裡看到的那種歐洲民間音樂,反而充滿北非風味。
I visited St Denis, 10km north from the city center. Its a relatively improvised area within Paris. While almost all French kings were buried here, due to the stereotype of unsafely, very few visited would come here. I encountered numerous African French here, and saw a few barbershops -- a symbol of African immigrant community. One of them has a Haiti flag on its door. Right in front of the city hall, I ran into a newlywed who were dancing, singing and celebrating with their friends. The music, full of North African influence, was quite different from what you think you may hear in Paris.
既然來了巴黎,美食是一定要有的,但是在美食的選擇上我們也沒有忘記初衷,於是特別選擇了連在美國都很少有機會接觸到的寮國菜。從19世紀後半到20世紀中,中南半島上的越南、柬埔寨、寮國都是法屬印度支那(French Indochina)的一部分;即使二次大戰之後這些國家脫離法國獨立,他們的文化、社群以及飲食在巴黎仍然不難見到。我們三個人點了原本屬於東南亞的春捲、酸肉、米線,以及漢人移民帶到東南亞的潮州魚肉粥(和台灣南部的虱目魚粥87%像),那是我這幾次來巴黎吃過最好吃的一餐。除此之外,附近購物昌商場裡接連出現的泰文、高棉文以及拉丁化越南文字也讓我看的相當興奮。
Cuisine is part of everyone's Paris experience. Aiming to taste the ethnic diversity here, we chose a low-key Laotian place at an Asian foot court. From the second half of 19th century to mid 20th century, Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos were parts of French Indochina, the French colony in East Asia; while these countries gained independence after world war II, their cultures, communities and cuisines are still quite visible in Paris. We orderled spring rolls, Laotian sour pork and Laotian, rice noodle soup, plus Teochew rice soup with fish (which is very similar to the rice soup in southern Taiwan). It was the most impressive meal I've ever had in Paris. In addition, the Thai characters, Khmar characters and Romanized Vietnamese alphabets in the food court really excited me.