關於 陳雲痴線 ，我們在網路上蒐集到這些相關的討論、資訊與評價

（失敗者回憶錄0927）
非常有用的白痴

1971年4月30日，美國《生活》雜誌發表了名記者斯諾（Edgar Snow，1905－1972）的文章《同毛澤東的一次談話》，當時一位親中的大學講師對我說，不要相信斯諾這篇東西，全篇都是假的。這位老兄一面在港大任教，一面也同我們聯繫，想為愛國事業做點事。他算是對西方文化有點了解的人，但受文革的宣傳洗腦，也無法接受毛澤東所講的不那麼符合文革宣傳的話。那麼更不要說當時香港和海外的一般左派盲眾了。

斯諾所記的毛澤東說了什麼呢？他說他雖不否定有個人崇拜，但搞得過分了，「四個偉大」（偉大導師，偉大領袖，偉大統帥，偉大舵手）「令人討嫌」，那些喊「萬歲」的人，有真心實意的，有隨大流的，也「打著紅旗反紅旗」的。他說，歡迎美國總統尼克遜來訪，中美的問題必須同尼克遜解決。他說美國科學技術、工業發展領先世界，教育普及。中國應該學習美國把責任和財富分散到五十個州那種做法。他盛讚日本侵華，說「那些日本人實在好，中國革命沒有日本人幫忙是不行的。」日本佔領大半個中國期間，「我們搞了一個百萬軍隊，佔領了一億人口的地方」。他說中國的核彈只是一個小指頭，美蘇就各是一個大拇指。一個小指頭怎麼敵得過兩個大拇指呢？但據說蘇聯對中國還是有點怕，就像房間有幾隻老鼠，還是有人會怕的。

這些說法，今天看來不是什麼高論，但在文革極左思潮氾濫下，卻讓人難以置信。不是一直說日本侵華如何罪惡，中國如何無敵，美國如何是紙老虎，美國如何是中國不可妥協的敵人，毛澤東這樣的偉大人物千年一遇嗎？

斯諾是1970年8月到中國，10月1日在天安門城樓與毛澤東站在一起，12月18日同毛進行5個小時談話，12月25日《人民日報》刊登毛與斯諾在天安門的照片，稱斯諾為「美國友好人士」。斯諾延至71年四月才刊出談話文章，表示「最近才能夠證實他（毛）不反對在不直接引用原話的情況下發表他的一些談話。」也就是說，斯諾的文章是在毛同意下發表的。

與此同時的71年四月，中國邀請美國乒乓球隊來訪，這是打開中美外交僵局的第一波——乒乓外交。斯諾文章預告了中國有意與美國修好，這是第二波。7月9日，美國國家安全顧問基辛格秘密訪問中國，會見毛澤東，與周恩來詳談，決定了美國總統次年對中國的訪問，是第三波。

這些事態的急劇變化，《七十年代》都緊緊掌握機遇，作大篇幅的報導和評論。其中最精彩的，是在九月號全文譯載了美國《紐約時報》副社長、專欄作家賴斯頓（James Reston，1909－1995）同周恩來的談話。賴斯頓是美國一流記者，他以尖銳的詞峰，與周恩來就聯合國席位、中美關係、台灣問題、印支局勢展開舌戰。不能說周恩來的回答令賴斯頓滿意，但至少對答如流，沒有迴避問題，也沒有被難倒。重看這個訪談，只能慨嘆在五十年後的中國，已經沒有一個外交人員可以達到周那樣的水平了，更何況他當時是處於毛澤東和極左思潮的擺布下。

西方和日本關於中美關係突破的深入報導及評論文章很多，《七十年代》倚靠《大公報》的曹驥雲（陶傑父親）幫忙選擇及翻譯。當時香港左派和右派的報刊，仍然未見有這方面的大量文章，去滿足讀者急切需要了解形勢的求知欲。右派因為對台灣國府不利，少碰這話題還可以理解，但左派就可能仍然擺脫不掉極左思想框架，而不敢大膽去報導與評論中國與「美帝國主義」趨友好。就像保釣運動開始時那樣。

這一年的九月，旅美留學生的五人保釣團經香港到中國秘密訪問。我被通知去同他們見面。這個後來被稱為「保釣第零團」的五人，是李我炎、王正方、王春生、陳恆次、陳治利。五人獲周恩來接見並長談。中國也是在這時候正式肯定了保釣運動。

據後來了解，周恩來是早前在《七十年代》上看到關於保釣運動的報導和評論，從而認識保釣和《七十年代》雜誌的。保釣和《七十年代》獲中共掌權者的青睞，改變了保釣的性質，也使《七十年代》更接近中共權力。保釣在海外，向親中的「統一運動」路線發展，是從知識人對體制和權力的對抗，轉為對權力的依附。《七十年代》獲中共重視之後，就更難以獨立輿論的姿態與中共的意識形態保持距離了。

這既是《七十年代》的「成功」，也是我困惱的開始。

2021年5月3日，法國《世界報》說北京正在尋找「非常有用的白痴」以成為「新時代的斯諾」來宣傳形象。我在當年，可能也是「非常有用的白痴」。（68）

圖1，1970年10月1日，斯諾與毛澤東在天安門城樓上；

圖2，1971年基辛格秘密訪華，與周恩來會談。

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姚瑞中寫於2021年端午節

Postscript

I have been living recklessly in Taiwan for more than fifty years. According to Zi Wei Dou Shu (Purple Star Astrology), Tan Lang is the sole star in my house of Self. This star, which represents xxx, forms an equilateral triangle with that star Qi Sha and Po Jun on the square chart and constitutes a Sha Po Lang pattern. The pattern indicates a kind of turbulence and change, a life of wandering with ups and downs and it tells a lot about my life. After my ill-fated youth, I started from scratch and traveled around the world with exhibitions that I participated. Like a flaneur, I wandered around ruins, nature, and temples with every type of film camera obliviously. Thus, I founded the Hall of Illusion and claimed to be the master of the hall. Several times a day, I pondered a quote from the Diamond Sutra, “Everything with form is unreal.” In addition, I usually stayed in the darkroom developing film and enlarging those negatives overnight. However, I treasured the simplicity of the black and white world. The earthly, gaudy, garish, phony and pleasing qualities within colored photos make the images even more realistic than the real world. It is not my cup of tea, so I seldom took colored photos. In Confucian thought, the age of fifty marks the stage knowing the mandate of Heaven. I am now at my fifties and realize how ephemeral human life is. However, I am not an immortal, nor having sagelike characteristics. I just learned that the stage of stainless (the second bhūmi) and develop a pure mind that is free from doubt and defilement. However, I’m still far from the immovable state and need to practice.

In the summer of 2017, after filming the work Incarnation, I experienced a severe heart rhythm problem which almost triggered myocardial infarction and could have killed me. Consequently, I realized that death was waiting for me and the life is too short to figure out how I can liberate myself from the cycle of Birth and Death. I couldn’t comprehend how to be free from all afflictions and worries and how to avoid delusive ideas. I wept for three days and nights after being enlightened by Shakyamuni Buddha. Up to the moment, I felt ashamed that I failed to realize that the self is as insignificant as dust after these years learning and practicing Buddhism. Since then, I have visited famous temples and monasteries in my spare time, worshiping Buddha, Bodhisattvas, arhats, and all the deities and immortals. Taiwan’s temples are myriad with a enormous number of sects, including Buddhism, Taoism, Yiguandao, Catholicism, Christianity, Chinese religions of fasting, Islam& Baháʼí Faith, Confucianism, Tiandiism& Tian-De Teachings, Xiwangmu cult, Yellow Emperor Sect, Precosmic Salvationism, Liism, World Wide Ethical Society, séance cult, etc. Some people even claim that they can mediate communication between the deities or spirits of the dead with human beings, having their believer rely on themselves instead of the orthodox dharma or dogma and pay excessive respect and admiration for the mediums or objects, accumulating wealth through such an unfair means or even harassing their believer sexually. Due to Taiwan’s historical changes, social turbulence, political struggles, and ideological issues, Buddhism and Taoism are somehow mixed. However, there are few emphases on the concept of the hell. As I took photographs of Yama of each court, judges, wardens of the underworld, jailers, General Fan and Hsieh (the ghost escorts) and all sinners, I found few temples cleverly created hellish scenes that are intriguing, exaggerating, and extraordinary. However, the creations are unparalleled unique. I have been studying Western arts for decades and then I came to realize that simplicity makes the most beautiful works of art. These hellish scenes can even compete with works of Giotto di Bondone (1267-1337) and Michelangelo Di lodovico Buonarroti Simoni (1475-1564).

Jingang Temple Shimen District, founded in 1986, overlooks the beautiful North shore. Although the temple is mainly dedicated to Phra Phrom (the Thai representation of Mahabrahma), spirits of Confucianism, Buddhism, and Taoism can also be founded in the temple. The worshipper can go cross the Seven Star bridge to relieve bad luck, walk along the five hundred arhat statues and knock on the gong to affirm one’s Buddha nature. Furthermore, the worshipper can also prostrate themself before Asia’s largest statue of Buddha in Nirvana (the Reclining Buddha statue) and pacify the Taoist Tai Sui deity of the year. I was impressed by the Jia-Zi Tai Sui General that a pair of palms grow out of his eyes. In 1994, the biō-kong (the person taking charge of the temporal affairs of a temple) received a divine inspiration from Yama (the King of Hell) that he had to build a sacred hall in the shape of a divine dragon, with the interior designed according to the World of Ultimate Bliss and the Underworld. When the visitor walks in the dark hallway, they will see the tortured people (dioramas, of course) scrunching their faces and crying bitterly and loudly in excessive grief as the visitor triggers the mechanism. One will even find them in the midst of flesh, body liquid and blood, mutilated limbs, and rotten corpses. While each of the ten Yamas are focusing on their own duties, showing their sacred dignity that collect visitors’ attention. The Baogong Temple in Linkou District, New Taipei City exclusively features colorful depiction of hellish scenes in relief in Taiwan. With its pastel shades and cartoon-like style, the relief is both grotesque and adorable at the same time. This temple is dedicated to Bao Zhen (also known as Justice Bao) representing the incarnation of Yama. Living people who have been treated unjustly can come worshipping Bao Gong and receive exorcism. Therefore, many people come here for seeking to solve unsolved cases. In Zhongyuan Festival (the ghost festival), the temple will burn the Zhizha (paper craft) boat to ferry the ghosts to the other shore, which is the shore of enlightenment. The only giant statue of Yama in Taiwan is still in the making. The temple is surrounded by a cemetery, suitable for meditating on the loathsomeness and impurity. Nantian Temple (1971), located next to the Eight Trigram Mountains Buddha in Changhua, features the first animatronic underworld. Despite the small size, the animatronic underworld is intensely shocking. Though it’s slightly worn, the colorful dioramas are still brutally ferocious. The creator was the late venerable Dao Zhang (Taoist priest) Jing Deng-fu while the origin of animatronic deities can be traced back to the 1960s Beigang Chaotian Temple. On the contrary, the Whiteman Toothpaste Tourism Factory in Shuishang Township, Chiayi, features ten Yamas with individual booth. The place is unexpectedly clean and polished yet keeps a simple and modest tone. Then, the Dragon Pagoda of the Dragon and Tiger Pagodas at Lotus Lake in Zuoying, Kaohsiung, holds the only relief of hellish scenes made of Kochin ceramic. All the figures are vivid and life-like. If one goes further into the pagoda, they will see a relief tunnel of the thirty-three incarnations of the white-robed form of Guanyin (Avalokiteśvara) on a white lotus, with a lovely and interesting design. Another Hall of Yama is built in the 1970s next to the entrance of Dagangshan Chaofeng Temple, located in the Alian District of Kaohsiung. Visitors will also see three statues of the Three Holy Ones of the Western Pureland (Amitābha, Avalokiteśvara, Mahāsthāmaprāpta) which assemble at a lotus pond. Although the hellish scene looks somewhat antiquated, you may still find its previous charm. If one goes further, they will reach the sculptural garden of “Attaining the Bodhi Way: the Incarnation of Sakyamuni Buddha,” where the visitor can see the essence of Bhagavato’s (meaning the Blessed one, one of the common epithets for Buddha) life. When Tathāgata (another epithet for Buddha) was old, the king of Kosala wanted to avenge the arrogance of the tribe of Shakyas who had long despised him, regarding him as a son of a maiden. Although Buddha has sat in lotus position alone three times to stop the army from attacking his tribe. However, one can never reverse the cause and following karma. The prince born of a maiden was so furious that he eventually destroyed his homeland. Maudgalyāyana (one of the Buddha’s closest disciples), who is said to have had supernatural abilities that surpassed the other disciples, could not bear to see the slaughter of innocent people. Thus, he saved five hundred people of his tribe with a pātra (an eating utensil of Buddhist monks). Unfortunately, everything he did was in vain, those who were saved eventually turned into a puddle of blood. The Buddha said that the supernatural abilities cannot surpass the power of karma. The cause and effect work all the time. When Maudgalyāyana’s mother fell into the path of hungry ghost, he used his supernatural abilities to save his mother from hunger. However, all the food turned into fire before being fed to his mother. Later, the Buddha commanded the monks to put nectar and dishes in a basin on the 15th day of the seventh month in the lunar calendar for the monks from all directions to free his mother from reincarnation. In later times, the Ullambana Dharma Service, the Compassionate Samadhi Water Repentance, and the Yoga Collection for Feeding the Searing Mouths Dharma Service are rituals to eliminate karmic hindrance and to cease to worldly delusions. Through such practices, one can free the dead as well as confess their repentance.

Madou Daitian Temple is a magnificent and colorful temple in Tainan. Not only can the worshippers visit the eighteen levels of Hell but also the Heaven (it was built in 1979 and inaugurated in 1983) here. The lighting and sound effects are stunning and frightening. When walking alone in the space, one may feel like taking a Guan Luo Yin trip (a Taoist necromancy which leads people’s spirits to hell and communicate with the dead ones) to visit the underworld prison. Before arriving the first court of the underworld, the visitor will walk through the Mountain of Heart Summit, the Pure Heart Pond, the Frontier between the Living and the Dead Realms, the Soul Registry Hall, the Portico of Demons, the Center for Complementary Teaching of Canonical Books, the Citadel of Premature Death, and the Bridge of Vanity. When one arrives at the first court, they will see King Chin-guang, who is in charge of the court, using the Mirror of Retribution to show the earthly form of evil creatures and also witness the sub-hell of Pillar-Holding and Fire Bed, etc. At the second court, King Chu-jiang collates the register of sins the souls of the dead have committed to impose the punishments. Here, you will see the sub-hell of Excrement and Urine, Hungry Ghost, Burning Dance Floor, Ice, Pus and Blood, Whipping, Tongue-Raking, Sword Blade, Stomach-Piercing, Chopping, etc. Next, the dead at the third court, ruled by King Song-di, will receive the punishments including inversion tortures, face-skinning with steel and copper knife, eye-wrenching, pounding, blood-sucking, rib-piercing, roasting, tendon-taking, being eaten by maggots. The visitor can pay a visit to the Palace of Soul-Resuscitation for the Four Forms of Creatures (birth from an egg, birth from a womb, birth from moisture, and birth by transformation). King Wu-guan is in charge of the fourth court. There are sixteen sub-hells at the fourth court including Waist Chop, Tongue Removal, Boiling Pond, Mouth-stabbing, Skin-peeling, Sword Tree, Burning Wheels and Cart, Eye-shooting, etc. Next, at the fifth court, sinful souls are allowed to ascend the Tower of Hometown-Viewing to take a final look of their family. The visitor will witness sub-hells of Knee-striking, Heart-slicing, Blade Mountain, Flying Swords and Burning Stones, etc. The King of Bian City takes charge of the sixth court, which is also known as the “Great Hell of Screaming,” with sub-hells including Fire Cattle, Tiger-Biting, Kidney-Eating, Mouth-Poking, Throat-Nailing, Iron Mill, Decapitation, etc. The King of Tai-shan is in charge of the seventh court, the “Great Hell of Heat and Fire.” The sixteen sub-hells at this court include Finger-Searing, Bowel-Hauling, Stone-Bearing, Boiling Oil, Tongue-Removal and Cheek-Piercing, etc. Next, the King Du-shi is in charge of the eighth court, the “Great Hell of Intense Fire and Heat,” and the sub-hells including Fire Dogs, Molten Iron, Iron Snakes, Dismemberment, Steel Spikes, Burning-Marrow, Iron Ball, Scale, etc. The ninth court is ruled by the King Ping-deng. It is known as the biggest court, Avici Hell (the Hell of Incessant Suffering), which if the lowest level of the hell realm and the interior is gloomily and terrifyingly dark. Those who committed the most serious evil deed will be sent to the Avici Hell. Sub-hells such as Poisonous Snake, Brain-Removal, Crow-Gnawing, Raining Needles, Wasps and Scorpions are included at this court. After arriving the tenth court, ruled by the Great King of the Reincarnation Palace, one can visit the “Observatory of Life on earth” and the “eight bureaus of the Reincarnation Palace” (including the Bureau of Judicial Control, the Bureau of Good-Actions, the Bureau of Bad-Actions, the Bureau of Debts, Gratitude, and Vengeance, the Bureau of Longevity and Destiny, the Bureau of Familial Ties, the Bureau of the Reincarnated, and the Bureau of Birth). The sinful one will be sent to the Pavilion of Mengpo and made to drink the Soup of Forgetfulness to forget all past affairs. According to the sinful one’s merits of previous life, they will go across one of the six bridges (gold, silver, jade, stone, wood, bamboo) to the “Reincarnation-Wheel (Wheel on the Crimson River).” Finally, one is able to reborn in the six realms. According to the Aṣṭadaśa nāraka sutra ( the Eighteen Hells Sutra), after one passes away, they will enter an intermediate and transitional state between death and rebirth, known as antarābhava in Sanskrit, for forty-nine days. The being will be evaluated by Yama, who will decide if one should get reborn or get punished at the hell. Those who committed the Five Grave Offenses (killing one’s father, killing one’s mother, killing an Arhat, shedding the blood of a Buddha, and creating a schism within the community of Buddhist monks and nun who practice for attaining enlightenment.) will be sent to the Avici Hell and stay there eternally. Kṣitigarbha is the Lord of the Nether World, ruling the ten court of Hell. The lord will set up the “Hall of Teaching” at each court to salvage those sinful ones who still obtain few merits at the offering rituals.

Human beings live the Sahā world (sahāloka in Sanskrit, meaning “endurance of suffering,” a concept of mundane world in Mahāyāna Buddhism) where they share with other reincarnations (including beings of the hells, of the preta, and of malevolent nature spirits) with five turbidities (the Kalpa turbidity, the view turbidity, the affliction turbidity, the living beings turbidity, and the life turbidity). Those who commit the ten evil deeds (killing, stealing, adultery, lying, using immoral language, slandering, equivocating, coveting, anger, and false views) must fall into the three evil paths (animals, preta, and hell). However, how can one escape from the three realms/ twenty-eight heavens (including the six heavens of the desire realm, the eighteen heavens of the form realm, and the four heavens of the formless realm)? Worldly people who don’t have such an awareness cannot leave the cycle of the twelve nidanas (meaning causes or motivations), let alone eliminate the eighty-one afflictions (that have been produced due to misunderstanding regarding reality) and the eighty-eight illusions (including five afflictions of advanced practitioners, also known as five views: view of self, extreme view, evil view, view of attachment to views, and view of morality; and five unintelligent temptations: desire, anger, stupidity, arrogance, and doubt) of thought within the three realms and four Arya satyas (noble truths, including suffering, arising, ending, and path). They cannot realize that the essence of the five skandhas (referring to aggregates of clinging, including the matter of form, sensation, recognition, mental formation, and consciousness) , the twelve ayatana (meaning sense base, including six internal bases: eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, and mind and six external bases: visible objects, sound, odor, taste, touch, and mental objects), and the eighteen dhātavah (meaning compositional elements of human existence, including six consciousness, six faculties, and their objects) are the emptiness and the void. Furthermore, they cannot dispel the two reasons for clinging to the idea of the self and the attachment to elemental constructs and even believe in the two (false) tenets that that karma and nirvana are not real and that the ego and phenomena are real. As a consequence, they fail to develop the eleven wholesome mental factors (faith, energy, conscience, being ashamed, non-attachment, non-aggression, non-delusion, calmness, equanimity, conscientiousness, and non-injuriousness) and cease the sixteen unwholesome mental factors (desire, greed, anger, delusion, arrogance, doubt, wrong view, wrath, enmity, hypocrisy, vexation, jealousy, parsimony, deceit, flattery, harming, ambitiousness, stupidity, lacking of faith, idleness, being unrestrained, forgetting, distraction, non-discernment, ). One must bear in mind that once all our virtuous roots are discontinued, they will be trapped in the never-ending reincarnation and the suffering of infinite continuity.
Is it possible that the hell will be empty one day? If the beings in hell will become extinct while evil spirits inhabit the mundane world, the world could be considered as a pure land. If we could witness the nature of the void, then hell will exist no more.
Since ancient times, the concept of hell has been widely spread among all tribes. Aging, death, beginning, and end are the basis of nature and the core of cosmic consciousness. However, the prosperous civilization as our island is not a place where desire can be eliminated. It’s impossible to eradicate evil nature. Since fetters brought by the constitution, the state, the law, society, the military, corporations, schools, families, and groups are not less than the eighteen levels of hell, the mortals repress themselves, bury their feelings. Day after day, greed, anger, stupidity, arrogance, doubt, and resentment are stacking. However, since the six dust (visible objects, sound, odor, taste, touch, and mental objects) has not yet been extinguished, people in the mundane world are still full of delusions. The demons, devils, evil spirits, and the wondering dead exist in the wilderness, while only advanced practitioners with transcendent would attempt to make contact with the dead in the wasteland and forest. Worldly people like us trespass in Disneyland-like man-made hell. It is absurd and ridiculous that the hellish scenes cannot stop us from perpetrating evil deeds, but the horrific and cruel scenes yet satisfy our self-righteous shame.

The pandemic has been boiling over for more than a year and a half. The number of infected patients worldwide is nearly a hundred and eighty million, and the death toll has risen to four million, which is equivalent to a war crisis. I hope that we can all be compassionate, give peace to the dead, treat all sentient beings well and equally. The hell is innately empty; however, deluded and misleading thoughts would give rise to all jealousy and hatred and then manifest the hell before us. This book merely serves as a memorandum of conscience for dictators of the world’s new cold war, supporters of unrestrained warfare, dark web hackers, and those who are cunning and contemptuous and maltreat others when knowing they have problems.

June 2021,

Yao Jui-chung

疫情爆發以來，藝術家能做的事不多，平常就閉關在家其實挺習慣，但是總想為社會做些事、幫上忙，想了半天安撫人心也許還行吧！於是另一本「地獄空」將趕在中元普渡八月初出版上市，由典藏出版社社長發心首肯出版，設計名家黃子欽操刀，附贈很多符咒給大家趨吉避凶。諸惡莫作，眾善奉行，疫情消退，平安喜樂。附上後記給大家解封後參訪這些宮廟，觀照自己的心所。全文如下：

野放台灣五十餘年，貪狼獨坐，三方四正殺破狼格局，少年多舛，白手起家，隨展覽雲遊四海，如閒雲野鶴常持各類底片機流連廢墟、山川、宮廟忘返，遂設幻影堂自詡堂主，一日三省「凡所有相皆是虛妄」，常宅於暗房沖片放大通宵、鐘情黑白世界之單純，彩色照片俗世繽紛花俏做作甜美甚至比現實更現實故少拍也。知天命之年有餘，了悟人生一瞬、眨眼即逝，雖非仙人，亦無道骨，初聞離垢地生清淨心，但離華嚴「不動地」尚遠，待修持也。

2017年盛暑拍畢「巨神連線」，心律不整差點心肌梗塞向閻羅王報到，意識死神隨伺在側，人生苦短，如何了生脫死、盡斷煩惱、無所罣礙、遠離顛倒…總不得解，蒙釋迦摩尼佛開示飆淚三晝夜，聞佛法數載始知自我渺如塵埃，甚感慚愧。閒暇乃參訪名寺古剎，禮敬焚香佛陀菩薩羅漢諸神天仙王爺媽娘，台灣宮廟千奇百怪、宗派錯綜複雜（佛教、道教、一貫道、天主教、基督教、齋教、回教＆大同教、儒教鸞堂、天帝教＆天德教、慈惠堂＆勝安宮、軒轅教、道院、理教、萬國道德會、會靈山…）、神棍橫行（依人不依法、偶像崇拜、斂財、邪淫），因歷史變遷、社會動盪、政治鬥爭、意識形態等因素導致佛道混雜，但地獄造景稀少，後專注拍攝各殿閻王、判官、陰司、獄卒、七爺、八爺乃至一切罪人，各寺造景巧妙、耐人尋味，意境乖張溢於言表，造型扭曲非常人所能塑也，然匠心獨運、自成一格，專研西方藝術數十載方知真誠樸拙最美，絲毫不輸喬托（Giotto di Bondone，1267～1337）乃至米開郎基羅（Michelangelo Di lodovico Buonarroti Simoni 1475 ~ 1564）矣。

創立於1986年的石門金剛宮風景優美可眺望北濱，雖主祀四面佛，儒釋道眾神尊也不含糊，可過七星橋解厄、繞行五百黝黑羅漢敲鑼印心、跪拜亞洲最大臥佛涅槃像，安太歲自不在話下，甲子太歲爺雙眼長出手掌印象甚深，1994年經閻羅王指示廟公建造一條肚內設極樂世界及陰曹地府之神龍，行走暗黑通道觸動感應機關，只見面容猙獰受刑者呼天搶地喊冤、身邊盡是血肉糢糊殘肢敗屍腦漿塗地，十殿閻羅各司其職、威儀攝人。新北市林口區青嶺湖北文紫祥宮包公廟則以壁面彩塑地獄浮雕獨步全台，粉嫩色彩搭配卡漫風格，尤為造型簡直恐怖到可愛透頂，該廟主祀森羅殿閻羅天子包拯（包青天），陽世冤屈者可至此參拜祭解，求破懸案者眾，逢中元普渡皆以紙紮船渡亡魂至彼岸，全台唯一閻羅天子巨像籌備中，四周環繞墓地，適合修不淨觀也。台灣首尊彰化八卦山大佛旁南天宮（1971）地府則是首座電動地府，規模精小但驚嚇度破表，略顯破敗但五光十色仍蠻凶悍，出自已故台南大道長金登富之作，而電動神明起始可追溯至1960年代北港朝天宮。倒是嘉義水上鄉白人牙膏觀光工廠「戴相府」、「將軍府」設置十殿地府出乎意料之外，乾淨亮麗、ㄧ殿ㄧ間、簡單樸實。由高雄蓮潭龍虎塔龍口入內可見全臺唯一交趾陶地獄牆面，尊尊栩栩如生，續入龍身乃進聞聲救苦白衣觀音大士三十三化身浮雕隧道，造型設色甚為古錐。高雄大岡山超峰寺入口處「西方三聖蓮池海會」（阿彌陀佛、觀世音菩薩、大勢至菩薩巨像）旁設靜態十殿閻羅（1970年代初），雖略為陳舊然韻味猶存，續往上行可抵「證菩提道－釋迦如來應化事迹」雕塑園區，一攬世尊畢生精華。如來年邁時，琉璃國王為報長期被釋迦族輕蔑之傲慢心，世尊雖三次單獨伽跌坐阻擋大軍進攻之路，但因緣果報無法逆轉，昔日婢女所生王子瞋恨無以復加，還是滅了祖國。自持神通第一目犍連不忍無辜百姓慘糟屠殺，遂以缽盛救度五百族人，最終卻化為血水，佛言神通廣大仍不敵千百劫業力，因緣果報屢試不爽。其母死後墜入餓鬼道飢餓難耐，目犍連遂展神通救渡，但所食尚未入口皆化為赤火，佛陀囑咐農曆七月十五日僧眾解安居自恣日，於盆中設甘露美食供養十方僧眾，因此超度亡母。後世「盂蘭盆法會」乃至「水懺法會」、「瑜珈焰口法會」皆為消業障、斷塵垢之超渡儀軌，既渡亡魂也自懺悔。

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姚瑞中寫於2021年端午節

#草屯囝仔 #敬保玄壇公 #台語解說

因為受到了友宮的邀約
所以寫了這首《敬保玄壇公》✨
來訴說我們對祂的Feel～
形容祂的威武和帥氣！

對了～
各位如果影片有需要
可以自由使用我們所創作的「神明歌曲」
⚠️僅供非商業、非營利使用⚠️
也要標注是我們的歌曲喔～
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‼️影片勘誤‼️

茶米罐仔內底「囥」現金
囥 khǹg

影片中寫「放」是錯誤的，
「囥」才是正確的用字喔！


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《敬保玄壇公》Official Audio📺
👉 https://youtu.be/NR_bVlxSWUY

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本集介紹歌曲
【敬保玄壇公】

塵封的過去
踮在笨港時機成熟時
踮在陳居士的厝內
託夢著發現土地埋著花蕊
一開始 無名無字 號稱內神
面烏 魁梧 昂首闊步
乩身指示玄壇降世縱行五路
照天地正氣
光線四射 金龍如意
明路指點武財神

天地正氣武威威
武德真經傳唱人間永留世
五路之首趙光明
騎著烏虎將軍下凡渡眾生

留下的傳奇 阮傳承
猶未寫完的傳記 阮完成
內神等待時日上扶乩
歷史一幕一幕現神跡
胡蠅通雨神熟內神 阻擋雨停
虔誠行前行 阮誠心行向光明
笨港雲林 百年香火拜玄壇
武德分靈 彰化溪湖敬保壇
拍造金身 玄壇元帥真身 開光點眼來精神
阮的精神 來自阮的神明
心靈寄託伊 心袂感覺虛 人攏講阮痴
祢的香火 由阮來傳承落去
祢的香火 就予阮來傳承落去啊
萬靈天尊 財神爺公啊

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參考資料｜北港武德宮官方網站、全國宗教資訊網、Wikipedia
特別感謝｜Achia Liu 、劉冠汶

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呢個我可以幫佢答 , 因為某一批人只係講利益嘅啫 , 你有蛇齋餅粽係咪出現囉 , 你叫佢自己暗錢去嗰啲餐廳食嘢支持下? 你請佢去就差唔多 , 點解有啲舖頭有人去排住隊懲罰 ,有啲舖頭就拍烏蠅 , 功利現實同埋良心,已經解釋咗點解有啲舖頭冇人幫襯嘅現象.我認為係一個商業社會,你做好你本身嘅分是就已經夠啦,不如話你係做餐廳嘅做好啲食物,你係做演員嘅就應該做好你嘅表演,咁就未已經解釋咗點解有啲餐廳,同埋藝員冇表過態,都一樣可以生存到,你又自己冇job, 嘉欣你唔係做緊自己行業內嘅事吖嘛.你硬要同嗰班插頭沖出嚟差吖嘛'. 咁當然亦都唔排除呢個peter仔啦 ,警嫂 ,明嘅明嘅 ,

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Michelle.姐亦都有喺節目講, 佢自己都有好多藍色藝人, 但係都冇同藍營嘅藝員朋友割席, 如果佢覺得因為立場唔同而同呢一啲朋友割席就係好Clichés, 即係好老土, 好陳腔濫調食古不化咁解 ; 我自己都係呀我身邊......................班人自己去分黨分派啫 .人哋商業電台同埋blue tv都冇分顏色 ,一樣接廣告接到手軟 .如果你話大家收入少咗 ,亦都可能係因為近排疫情 ,廣告商都好謹慎去落廣告 ,Budget有限就要好審慎搵邊啲代言人㗎啦 ,

提到電視台近日風起雲湧，MIRROR及ERROR的人氣更高到一個誇張的地步，雪雪認為：「我覺得呢個...................MIRROR及ERROR被指努力，很多TVB藝人或歌星亦很努力，雪雪再出擊：「呢個先最奇妙吖嘛！大台啲人冇人睇，弱台……弱到唔弱嘅嗰啲收視率都唔識計嘅，好低嘅，呢度就有個世代問題。你大台依然靠傳統嗰個收視率，幾點畀咩你睇，

呢度有少少補充 , 而家計算電視收視率嘅, 係一間國內有份投資嘅公司 , 你話你一個數據出嚟嘅準確度, 佢哋係喺放部機去大約一個數目嘅家庭做sample collect data , 如果真係咁高收市嘅 , 廣告商都唔識得喺你個台落廣告 , 咁你係咪鬧曬成香港嘅廣告相係豬呀 .


Michelle姐繼續講, 但而家啲後生仔根本唔鍾意跟住個時間表（電視節目表）去做人，佢哋有自己個agenda，.................真係就係咁講㗎啫，我成日都落旺角食飯，可能我呢啲樣周街都係啦，都叫做有自知之明, 旺角邊條街呀 , 係咪砵蘭街呀

佢話: 一樣之嘛，其實我本身對MIRROR係一啲反感都冇㗎！（有冇睇過類似演出？）睇過啲咪傳媒報道同埋啲片，我覺得都charm嘅，嘩, 表 , 打撚到呢
但係奈何地，我覺得過份地報道到某一啲位係反感……即係嗰啲叫反效果呀，sorry。」

雪雪聞言，立即笑問玻璃朱：「當年你有冇嬲譚詠麟同張國榮霸晒啲娛樂版？某程度都係一樣，再退多幾十年，我未出世嘅年代，蕭芳芳同陳寶珠都霸晒嗰啲版面，我啲前輩話畀我聽，當任白紅嘅時候.

之後，玻璃朱認為電視台計收視點數在世界各地通行，指這是很多國家的指標，
下刪3000字, 我都講咗因為而家無線tvb佢哋用嗰個計算收視率嘅機制, 廣告商知道係唔準確, 所以咪唔用呢個收據畀生意你做囉, 你估廣告商白痴嘅咩

Michelle姐就好簡短咁樣用咗兩三句說話已經打發咗你條仔細啦, 而家啲人係睇view數, 係如話好多外國公司youtuber InstagramFacebook,如果你去買like擺roadshow嘅話畀人check到成個袋都冇埋㗎大佬, 唔可以做數㗎, 你估.................呢啲外國公司可以好似淘寶咁樣去買票數, 微博有幾百萬成千萬個鐵粉咩, 如果你youtube畀埋bell數 , 我都做啦 , 不過後果自負, 人哋係用ai去scan 你有冇出古惑 , 一經發現 , 你成個台一夜之間冇咗㗎喇 ,金賢咁嘅系統 你先至可以喺個 YouTube view數嗰度反映到 , Artist歌手嘅受歡迎程度呀嘛 . 你啲數就真係堅 . 嗰時代喺度變遷緊㗎啦 ,
Michelle姐都講咗啲人睇完之後仲會share㗎嘛 , 咁你收視率 係用部機係佢連接個sample家庭嘅電視機 , 你點樣分享呀 . 人哋個個上網睇㗎啦 , 連啲廣告商我係多咗喺個網上面放廣告㗎 , digital Marketing ,你懂不懂呀

講講下唔夠人講佢就轉話題 ,
：「其實我覺得唔止兩個電視台嘅競爭，因為有太多唔同嘅平台，例如Netflix呀，上網睇內地節目，或者外國節目……」此時雪雪在旁邊笑邊搖頭說：「如果拉埋其他去討論，其實冇乜討論空間，Netflix我哋做唔到嘛，我哋係本地電視製作呀……我嘅着眼點唔會放喺電視台度，根本就係所謂娛樂節目嘛，譬如網上有好多本地年輕人嘅，亦都好高hit rate，好多人支持，甚至好多客落廣告，即係只要你有創意有人欣賞，自然錢呀，人呀乜都嚟晒。」

拿玻璃珠唔係我唔醒你啦, 喺度幫你宣傳埋你個youtube channel啦 , 那他我對你幾好 , 你哋如果覺得佢有誠意嘅 , 都可以去surprise佢 , 我慣好公道㗎 , 佢無非都係想出名啫 , 係呀網上係有好多選擇 , 有萬鳩幾個人支持你呀 , 我覺得唔差喎 .


講真嗰句 , 如果你真係教人煮嘢食嘅話 , 咪撚講咁多廢話 , 我覺得佢煮嘢食未必差得過媽媽張嘅 ,不過你係都要拆出嚟冇辦法 .為仔死為仔亡 ,餵仔撐男 先至有得上床 .

到最後, 玻璃豬呀 , 都係兜返去tvb嘅藝人 畀人哋網絡欺凌 , 收頭 , Michelle姐姐講到有啲冇耐性, 長話短說 , 佢都係話兩邊都有畀人欺凌呀 ,

咁我就做個總結 , 覺得佢哋而家冇廣告接就話收到人哋欺凌 , 不如大家都各自做返自己份內嘅款項先..............................
因此香港用這個計算觀眾人數是完全冇問題，但雪雪即插口說並不同意其說法。「我做咗娛樂記者好多年，一直覺得詬病嘅，就係如果TVB嗰個所謂嘅點數，只不過係幾多戶人裝咗部機去做一個projection，但而家係實際一個view我click入去，好清晰話畀你聽呢個（點數）唔代表晒我哋嗰批人囉。我唔係話個計法冇代表性，而係佢個代表性唔係做畀觀眾睇，而係做畀廣告商睇，廣告商攞住呢堆嘢去落廣告咁解。」

玻璃朱指網上跨平台7日數據，通常只有少於10%人去睇，計起上來只有兩點收視，因此不要說計算收視率沒有指標性，認為落廣告始終需要靠一個收視率去做。她說：「全世界都用緊嘅嘢，唔明點解我哋突然間唔buy囉！」雪雪即反擊說：「唔係buy唔buy，而係制度改變咗，而我哋繼續用緊舊制度去對應一個新時代，係不合時宜，我只能夠講當ViuTV正常播節目嘅時候，其實都好低收視率，佢重播都好少人睇，但你同人講，個個都講到喎，點解呀？因為我可以攞嗰條片去share，即使你冇去Viu任何平台去睇，不過你去咗我個平台睇咗，好多人share出去，咁呢個係一個新嘅模式，而呢個數字係可以好龐大嘅。」

發牌機構已包含道德底線
節目中，主持問到玻璃朱有否覺得TVB有問題，她想了想說：「我覺得TVB其實進步緊，自從志偉哥（曾志偉）返咗入去之後，例如以前淨係得星夢嗰一班人，但起碼你入返四大唱片公司入去，將成個音樂層面，即係我哋細細個好looking forward去睇嘅《勁歌金曲》，點解呢幾年搞到咁差，講真，我都覺得有冇搞錯呀？我哋都好開心終於有返個良性競爭喇，你哋唔使再講咩一台獨大，譬如最近ViuTV好有noise，我哋都啦，王晶都有屎尿屁啦，哈哈，呢啲出唔出得街㗎？我覺得每一個層面嘅觀眾，我哋都要迎合嘅，但係低俗到某一啲位，我都想講一講呢個節目（《ERROR自肥企画》），佢低俗到某一啲位係去到朋輩欺凌，我最驚係細路仔會覺得原來整蠱人係咁好玩，我又擺個波去炸吓佢下體先！」

此時雪雪就糾正玻璃朱的說法，指這個原本是一個有懲罰性的遊戲節目，每個人都有機會受罰，因此不存在朋輩欺凌問題。作為家長的玻璃朱就話擔心小朋友，雪雪即說：「你個仔都瞓咗覺啦……你哋成日話道德底線，道德底線對於一間發牌機構入面，只要你唔犯例，香港係冇人理你喎！」

離題扯Netflix討論
此台，例如Netflix呀，上網睇內地節目，或者外國節目……」此時雪雪在旁邊笑邊搖頭說：「如果拉埋其他去討論，其實冇乜討論空間，Netflix我哋做唔到嘛，我哋係本地電視製作呀……我嘅着眼點唔會放喺電視台度，根本就係所謂..............娛樂節目嘛，譬如網上有好多本地年輕人嘅，例如試當真游學修等嘅人，全部好有誠意、好有諗法，佢哋亦都好高hit rate，好多人支持，甚至好多客落廣告，即係只要你有創意有人欣賞，自然錢呀，人呀乜都嚟晒。」

堅稱黃人欺凌藍人
玻璃朱和雪雪在結尾時，終於擦出火花，雙方舌劍唇槍你一言我一句，但玻璃朱來來回回不斷強調「網絡欺凌」，實係嗰邊都suffer緊，都係事實嚟！」玻璃朱：「咁起碼啲藍人唔會欺凌啲黃人，啲藍人唔會走去V同藍兩批人，黃嘅人同樣受欺凌吖嘛，我而家惟有局住代表佢哋去講嘢啦，嗱！你又代表藍去講嘢啦！」而玻璃朱此時強撐說：「我都係講嗰句啦，欺凌嘅話，有一邊係零舍嚴重啲嘅，你哋成日話要爭取自由，點解唔畀自由人哋，我覺得係講唔通囉！」